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Extension: MD Dulee Noted. A non-editable note field type to add instructions to weblogs

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Ryan M.'s avatar
Ryan M.
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Ryan M.'s avatar Ryan M.

That’s a good question. I’m not sure there’s an available hook to be able to add this type of field to the custom category fields - so, right now I don’t have an answer for that.

       
michelG's avatar
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michelG's avatar michelG
I’m not sure there’s an available hook to be able to add this type of field to the custom category fields

Ryan, have you had a chance to check? I am using Category custom fields extensively in some projects and it would really help the editors to have some help statement into the Category dialog box. If it is possible, I may finance the additional development.

       
Ryan M.'s avatar
Ryan M.
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Ryan M.'s avatar Ryan M.

I actually just came upon a need for this myself only yesterday. I’ve never really used the category custom fields before, but the second I went in to use them I realized they do not have any instructions - so at least an MD Dulee Noted field at the top could help things out.

The main problem I see is that even if there IS a hook, MDDN uses the existing instruction textarea for a field - and there simply isn’t one here to use. I’m not clear where the instructions would be stored.

       
michelG's avatar
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michelG's avatar michelG

Well…at the minimum, your MDDN custom category field could display a text area for us to enter instructions. When displayed in the Category editing window, it could then have a different style than the others and be not editable.

       
Ryan M.'s avatar
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Ryan M.'s avatar Ryan M.

Does that textarea require a new, separate, MDDN table to be created then? If there is no instruction field already there to populate and I have to manually make a textarea appear - I’m just wondering where I’m actually storing the data that you would enter there. I’d have to either make a new table or add a column to the existing exp_category_fields table, or something similarly crazy.

Maybe the thing to do is put in a feature request for Custom Category Field Instructions?

       
michelG's avatar
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I cannot help you about this, Ryan. ‘Not a EE extension developer or even expert programmer. I am on the user interface/consulting side of this business. Let me know when you had time to evaluate this further. Thanks!

       
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Ryan M.
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Ryan M.'s avatar Ryan M.

I hear you on that. I looked at the category custom fields table and there is just nowhere to put this information. Unfortunately it’s structured differently than the regular custom fields table.

I agree that this area could use instructions as well as other custom field types, but I don’t think it’s possible at this point.

       
michelG's avatar
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michelG's avatar michelG

Oh well. I added a feature request. Thanks for checking!

       
Ryan M.'s avatar
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Ryan M.'s avatar Ryan M.

No problem. I added my $0.02 to the FR as well.

       
michelG's avatar
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michelG's avatar michelG

Ryan, I see myself repeating a lot of instructions from Weblog to Weblog.

Would it be possible to add a server-side include command into the field? That would allow me to write/edit these instructions into an include file to call wherever I need it.

       
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Ryan M.'s avatar Ryan M.

Not sure. I don’t know if the EE CP would allow PHP code to execute in the instruction field (if you’re talking about a PHP include or require statement)

       
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michelG's avatar michelG

The instruction field will accept an iframe. That is solving my problem.

That combination is actually very powerful: you can build a complete set of publishing instructions in HTML and just show the appropriate page for that weblog into the iframe. A time saving too: only one place to edit the content; much easier to re-use for other clients.

       
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Ryan M.'s avatar Ryan M.

That’s a very interesting tip - I’d like to add that as an available option on the MD Dulee Noted docs page (as well as the page at devot:ee). Are you putting all the instructions for a site into one HTML file and then only showing certain parts, or are you making multiple HTML files and keeping them in a directory?

       
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In my case, it would be a full instruction “web site” with multiple files.

Did you know that the instruction field can also accept a flash object?

Here is what I succesfully tried today: For another client I had produced a classic “paper” instruction manual with InDesign. It included a hyperlinked TOC and was delivered as a PDF. This afternoon, I uploaded it as a private document to the Scribd/iPaper web site. (Scribd converts a document to an iPaper format that can then be embedded (as Flash) into a web page (same concept as FlashPaper).)

Results: - A print-quality manual that you can easily print. - That you can also view and navigate into the instruction field. - For each weblog, you can edit the embedded code to start with the appropriate page. - A more flexible design approach and simplified graphic production that makes the full process much faster. With InDesign, you can build hyperlinks and buttons for a full interactive experience.

       
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Ryan M.'s avatar Ryan M.

Michel, that is really an interesting solution. Thanks for sharing that tip, and the photo.

       
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